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Title: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 17, 2015, 02:51:14 AM
hi there,

i want to share my newest work with you. its a german bike called "wanderer heeresmodel 1914"
you dont know wanderer? no problem but im shure you know audi, the 4 rings in the audi logo means the 4 companys get together in 1932 , audi, horch, wanderer  + dkw = audi ;-)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer.jpg)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Speedster on March 17, 2015, 04:03:51 AM
Wow!  That's an amazing model and render!  I love anything vintage, and had never heard of the Wanderer.  You did a great job of flattening the front tire (tyre)!  Could you share some clay shots of the model and additional views just so we can better appreciate the excellent modeling?  What modeling app did you use?
Bill G
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: edwardo on March 17, 2015, 05:26:16 AM
Wow thats an amazing model and materials/texturing. I don't think its lit up correctly - it somehow doesn't figure with the backplate! A few tweaks in the HDR editor should do it! Love the flat tyre

Edwardo
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Josh3D on March 17, 2015, 07:50:56 AM
Love the feel. Lots of potential here. The perspective or size may be off slightly and a different angle may help show the great modeling you've done .
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 17, 2015, 09:37:09 AM
thx for the coments, here some clay renders...  ;)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer2.48.jpg)
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(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer2.50.jpg)
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(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer2.51.jpg)
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(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer2.52.jpg)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Speedster on March 17, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
THANK YOU!  That is some of the best modeling I've ever seen, and I've been around a long time!  What did you model it in?  Even the dents and textures are modeled.  Wow!
Bill G
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 17, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
thank you sir  ;D

tools i used are 3dsmax and zbrush
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Will Gibbons on March 19, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
Yeah! Such a nice model, I think the clay shows it off better than the rendering does! I'd keep playing with it to show off the great detail in the model!
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Dylan on March 21, 2015, 03:14:56 AM
That's really excellent modeling Jerry.
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 25, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
thanks for the coments!

here some other shots  8)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/slide01_01.jpg)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/slide01_02.jpg)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/slide01_03.jpg)

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/slide01_04.jpg)

Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Esben Oxholm on March 26, 2015, 05:47:08 AM
Hi Jerry.
This is one of the best models I've seen in a long time. Good stuff!

Your lighting on the first and latest renders looks quite flat though, and doesn't do your model justice at all. That is a big time shame.
The clay renders looks a bit more interesting. It looks like there's both a white/bluish light source and a warmer light source. Correct?

I would add some more drama to the lighting by using two light sources with contrasting colors (not strong colors, just very subtle) and then make sure your model catches some highlights. Even though the painting and metals are old, I think there would be more contrast between highlights and shadows.

Hope you can use it.
Best regards
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 26, 2015, 12:13:25 PM
thanks for this,

i will try, and add more work to the lightning..
;)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Speedster on March 26, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
Hi Jerry;

I agree with Esben.  You need more drama to kick butt with this great model.  Check the KeyShot Cloud for some possible backplates.  But most important, check out the two great webinars by the "Render Master" Tim Feher, head of CG at Chrysler and one of the top line automobile artists.  I know yours only has two wheels, but the principles are the same, and we have all learned a lot from Tim.

Go to the KeyShot web page and scroll over to training and down to webinars.  I recommend the October 2014 "Automotive Q & A" and the October 2013 "Best Practices for Amazing Renders".

You might want to play with adding some planes and using IES lighting. You can easily add in, resize and position planes to suit.  It's one of the best ways to really kick the lighting and drama.  Usually lower the HDR brightness and let the IES lights carry the freight.

We all look forward to seeing you push this!

Bill G
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 26, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
cool thanks for the tipps!  ;)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on March 29, 2015, 06:26:24 AM
what about this drama ?  :D

(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer3.103.jpg)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Josh3D on March 30, 2015, 06:20:16 AM
Pretty cool. Still think a angle from the front, like slide01_03, would be a good one for this.
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: HLeandre on March 30, 2015, 10:29:45 PM
Really nice work.
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Esben Oxholm on March 30, 2015, 10:58:37 PM
It's an improvement for sure, but I feel it can get even better.
I agree with Josh that an angle showing the front, would be better.

Also, you have some tangents going on. (Thanks to Tim for the name and some great tips about the phenomena. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.407082086138495.1073741836.394218607424843&type=1)
I have painted them in with a green line. It can imagine that it's practically impossible to avoid with all those details, but give it a try :)

The lighting looks good, though the back of the bike still feels a bit flat (white circle).

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2388699/wanderer.jpg)

Last comment :)
I'm not a fan of the texture on the ground floor. Could be cool with some cracked concrete or something... but I think we're going into taste now.

Great job!
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on April 21, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
thanks again!

i have try my best :o
and this are the last 2 render i will share with you ( its time to render other projects  ;D )
(http://www.jerrygroschke.de/forum/wanderer_last.jpg)
(no post work)

best jerry
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: Arian Shamil on April 21, 2015, 10:19:35 PM
This is an amazing work! Love the model, love the render! A+++  :) ;) :D
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: JerryG on April 21, 2015, 11:31:25 PM
thanks  ;)
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: TpwUK on April 22, 2015, 04:36:42 AM
Dont shelve this project JerryG, by all means move on to other things, then come back to this. It's been a pleasure seeing this and the effort you have put into it. I look forward to seeing more of your work :)

Martin
Title: Re: German Motorbike 1914
Post by: mgvie on April 22, 2015, 11:02:46 AM
...Hi,  amazing work,wow!...              my favorite ...Picture 1 and (a drip oil here and there,...my Idea :))

mgvie