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Gallery => Amazing Shots => Topic started by: EGON on May 04, 2015, 02:00:03 PM

Title: Pump Me Up.
Post by: EGON on May 04, 2015, 02:00:03 PM
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Post by: TpwUK on May 04, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
looking good Egon :)

Martin
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Post by: Adam_M on May 05, 2015, 02:37:29 AM
Something looks funny, maybe the scale or the perspective.... 

Maybe its just me.
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Post by: PhilippeV8 on May 05, 2015, 05:32:55 AM
I'm sure its both.

Daikin airco's aren't that big ;)
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Post by: EGON on May 05, 2015, 07:23:55 AM
Can you show me the scale using the man?
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Post by: Angelo on May 05, 2015, 07:56:44 AM
Quote from: EGON on May 05, 2015, 07:23:55 AM
Can you show me the scale using the man?
how tall is the man? XD
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Post by: EGON on May 05, 2015, 08:09:48 AM
6 foot.
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Post by: EGON on May 05, 2015, 09:14:39 AM
Screen shot.
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Post by: E.Sirbu on May 05, 2015, 10:30:20 AM
the perspective is wrong. I am not a rendering expert but I made this that could help you. :)
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Post by: EGON on May 05, 2015, 11:31:40 AM
Thanks E for the diagram. I've had this problem since day one. It's like I'm perspective blind. Another try.
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Post by: Magnus Skogsfjord on May 05, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Isn't there this..perspective matcher in KeyShot? Never used it myself, but seen it on a tutorial.
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Post by: Speedster on May 05, 2015, 01:20:45 PM
Perspective looks spot on in the last image. 

But at least to me the car still seems small.  I'm referencing the door handles on the cooling towers (?) in the background, as compared to the car door handle.  Because of distance, the car handles should be about the "same relative size", but of course larger as the car is in the foreground.  It would help to know how high (tall) the AC units are.

It's subjective, but maybe tweak the car up in size until it "looks" right?

Bill G
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Post by: EGON on May 05, 2015, 01:39:33 PM
I still like the first one better. I like the fact that it violates the grid a little. I mean really does everything have to look so proper?  It's just a picture not a science project.
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Post by: Ed on May 05, 2015, 04:47:36 PM
"... I'm referencing the door handles on the cooling towers (?) in the background, as compared to the car door handle."

I rendered a car today and used the KS perspective tool to position it.  Still had an issue figuring out the proper scale for the car. 

So I used my Screen Calipers (http://www.iconico.com/caliper/).  The car sets on paved brick.  Google search told me 8" is typical for brick.  So using the pixels-to-units calibration feature of the calipers, I used a brick next to the tire as the standard.  Then opened the screen calipers to 19", which is the rim diameter. Then scaled the car until the rim fit the calipers.  I find myself using this tool in all sorts of applications, not just KS.

Ed Ferguson
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Post by: PhilippeV8 on May 05, 2015, 09:56:43 PM
Got to admit .. these things are quite a lot bigger than I expected ...

(http://www.airandwater.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/John-Hughes-photo-5-install-26.5.14-267x300.jpg)

Dimensions (H x W x D)
Outdoor (mm) 1680 x 930 x 765

The perspective study is correct, but by no means do you HAVE to align your car to these lines ... it doesn't have to be parked parallel to the building or the airco's.  That's true.

I'll also attach some images I made in sketchup .. if you want the skp file, I can attach it as well.

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Post by: E.Sirbu on May 06, 2015, 05:34:02 AM
Quote from: Magnus Skogsfjord on May 05, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Isn't there this..perspective matcher in KeyShot? Never used it myself, but seen it on a tutorial.
If you are talking about perspective view in keyshot I didn't use it too but sometimes specially when you are a beginer and you are using backplate of real world is usefull make those kind of drawings in photoshop (or anything else) to see wich is the vanishing point of the image. Than you can place the car (object) however you want respecting the perspective like in philippeV8 pictures. ;)
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Post by: Esben Oxholm on May 06, 2015, 05:58:59 AM
Another thing to consider is the color of the shadow.
Putting some blue into the shadow of the car to match the color of the shadow of the environment will help it blend better into the scene.
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Post by: edwardo on May 07, 2015, 02:23:04 AM
Whats with Henry Winkler and his basket ball?