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Title: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on June 28, 2015, 04:45:58 PM
Hello again!

I've been busy lately with this car :)
I tried to create some special scenery for this car and to focus on the grille and body lines as much as possible. Altho' It's a front view mostly and in ortographic mode, gimme' your thoughts on this rendering.

Also there shall be more coming, the coffee is brewing, so stay tuned for more in the upcoming week.

Nils.

(Really appriciative if there would be some comments on this aswell, and yes i know the driver side wheel is a lil' too off the ground :))
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: TpwUK on June 28, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
Render is good Nils - The model has some attention needs.

Rear tyre looks like it's slipped off the rim
Need smoothing or SubD levels adding to the 'hood' at that resolution you're rendering at
Same as above the door nearest the camera.

Martin
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Despot on June 29, 2015, 06:30:10 AM
I agree about the smoothing issue when rendering at such a high resolution, the model you are using has to be of sufficient quality to hold up to close scrutiny.

There is also an issue with Aliasing on a couple of renders which I can't quite put my finger on, perhaps it's a 'post' issue

To be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Some cool images though...

J
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: edwardo on June 29, 2015, 08:44:21 AM
QuoteTo be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Ha, ha, I had forgotten about that!

Here's a little scene i knocked up before breakfast this morning  ;D
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: edwardo on June 29, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
PS, sorry, don't mean to de-rail, just haven fun.

Nice work Nils!
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Despot on June 29, 2015, 09:42:51 AM
QuoteHere's a little scene i knocked up before breakfast this morning

FAKE  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: PhilippeV8 on June 29, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: edwardo on June 29, 2015, 08:44:21 AM
QuoteTo be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Ha, ha, I had forgotten about that!

Here's a little scene i knocked up before breakfast this morning  ;D

Waaw !  I'd love to get my hands on that 3D model !!  :P
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on June 30, 2015, 12:06:02 AM
Quote from: PhilippeV8 on June 29, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: edwardo on June 29, 2015, 08:44:21 AM
QuoteTo be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Ha, ha, I had forgotten about that!

Here's a little scene i knocked up before breakfast this morning  ;D

Waaw !  I'd love to get my hands on that 3D model !!  :P

You're not the only one with the same request :D
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Angelo on June 30, 2015, 04:46:35 AM
Quote from: The Metal Master on June 29, 2015, 06:30:10 AM
I agree about the smoothing issue when rendering at such a high resolution, the model you are using has to be of sufficient quality to hold up to close scrutiny.

There is also an issue with Aliasing on a couple of renders which I can't quite put my finger on, perhaps it's a 'post' issue

To be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Some cool images though...

J
what is tsunamigate?
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Angelo on June 30, 2015, 05:07:10 AM
Quote from: Angelo on June 30, 2015, 04:46:35 AM
Quote from: The Metal Master on June 29, 2015, 06:30:10 AM
I agree about the smoothing issue when rendering at such a high resolution, the model you are using has to be of sufficient quality to hold up to close scrutiny.

There is also an issue with Aliasing on a couple of renders which I can't quite put my finger on, perhaps it's a 'post' issue

To be honest since 'Tsunamigate', I'm always a little more observant/critical when looking at automobile renders

Some cool images though...

J
what is tsunamigate?
never mind i looked it up, i just lost all respect for tsunami, damn i used to look up to his renders, what a shame... :(
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on June 30, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Nils nice work, i agree too in some suggestion to you also if some person went off focus in the thread, and i dont understand.
Your works are great
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Detox on July 01, 2015, 04:39:26 AM
Awesome Nils!
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Alang7™ on July 01, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
Wow  :o
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: SergioBL on July 02, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
 ;D I remember the "Tsunamigate"...

Great renders Nils! The 3d environments you are doing are awesome! I agree with the comments about the smoothing zones :)
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 03, 2015, 04:40:41 AM
Quote from: SergioBL on July 02, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
;D I remember the "Tsunamigate"...

Great renders Nils! The 3d environments you are doing are awesome! I agree with the comments about the smoothing zones :)
What is the focus with tsunamigate and nils renders???? Boh
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: TpwUK on July 03, 2015, 05:02:11 AM
There's a couple of things on the first render that are not right. The model itself looks great, but the wheels are looking as if they have been composited in and are not part of the render. The front wheels tread curvature looks as if it's being ripped off in the wing, the treads curvature does not match that of the tyre wall, the rear tyres look as if they have slipped off the wheel rim etc etc.

These are the tricks that tsunami used to pull and that's where the references are coming from

Martin
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Angelo on July 03, 2015, 05:33:44 AM
Quote from: slater on July 03, 2015, 04:40:41 AM
Quote from: SergioBL on July 02, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
;D I remember the "Tsunamigate"...

Great renders Nils! The 3d environments you are doing are awesome! I agree with the comments about the smoothing zones :)
What is the focus with tsunamigate and nils renders???? Boh
https://www.keyshot.com/forum/index.php?topic=6744.0 tsunamigate........ nils was caught doing similar thing before on keyshot cgi facebook group.
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 03, 2015, 05:59:07 AM
Quote from: Angelo on July 03, 2015, 05:33:44 AM
Quote from: slater on July 03, 2015, 04:40:41 AM
Quote from: SergioBL on July 02, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
;D I remember the "Tsunamigate"...

Great renders Nils! The 3d environments you are doing are awesome! I agree with the comments about the smoothing zones :)
What is the focus with tsunamigate and nils renders???? Boh
https://www.keyshot.com/forum/index.php?topic=6744.0 tsunamigate........ nils was caught doing similar thing before on keyshot cgi facebook group.
I continue to don't understand..WHERE IS THE PROBLEM?? Did Nils use some tricks? So?? where is the problem??That's mean his renders are not great works?
Yes they are. Most of 3d artists use trickS and postproduction on their work..so???? I don't see the problem...i see the bad thing " he was caught".."he was caught"..killed someone???
Bah really don't understand..
I saw here on keyshot forum an artist..( i don't remeber the name) that made great automotive renders...but the ENTIRE BACKGROUND SCENE AND LIGHT was completely built in photoshop postproduction
, but all comments from users was WOW ..GREAT..wow.....whi nobody there told the same thing about tricks...whi no scandal on that?SO only because he use tricks on tires...????are u kidding guys?
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on July 03, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
betwen me and tsunami, i only used car imagry as backplates yet my models were all mine. so there's a fundamental difference there, and as far as i have seen, he did more than just use the backplate, he went full on copy paste basically.

Those days for me are ower because i have been exclusivly been building all of my scenery in 3d and rendering on those, so not a single backplate is illegal or something like that, all of my models are my models (scenes) - used as backplates in the scene.

old times were old times, so please stop reffering me to Tsunamis SHIT, not my deal, not like me, nothing to do with me.
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 03, 2015, 12:17:28 PM
Quote from: nilspiirma3d on July 03, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
betwen me and tsunami, i only used car imagry as backplates yet my models were all mine. so there's a fundamental difference there, and as far as i have seen, he did more than just use the backplate, he went full on copy paste basically.

Those days for me are ower because i have been exclusivly been building all of my scenery in 3d and rendering on those, so not a single backplate is illegal or something like that, all of my models are my models (scenes) - used as backplates in the scene.

old times were old times, so please stop reffering me to Tsunamis SHIT, not my deal, not like me, nothing to do with me.
Nils dont worry only some guru on here think like that! U are a real artist..and that gurus ..shut up..
There is someone on here also that never explain or share something here..and his definition is guru..please...
Then i saw at Tsunami renders too..and i didnt see all that shame..!! I repeat there is an artist here and now i will look for it, that made an automotive pickup render, and then he made backplate lights details..road all in photoshop. .and the guru on here didnt tell nothing.
Nils you are an artist..go to your way with this awesome renders
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 03, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
"he was caught".."he was caught".."he was caught".."he was caught"..
That are only bullshit...
Great artist..!
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: edwardo on July 04, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
QuoteWhat is the focus with tsunamigate and nils renders???? Boh

NOTHING!!! Metal Master simply said SINCE tsunamigate he scrutinises automotive images a little more. I then stupidly posted (as a joke) and image that was clearly NOT a keyshot rendering (as Tsunami used to do, before describing in great untrue detail how he produced the image). There is absolutely NO link to Nils, and nobody is suggesting that he has been doing a 'Tsunami'. Nils's work is the real deal, and personally I'm really liking his experimenting with actual geometry backgrounds / environments.

So, just to be clear, there is no, and has never been any connection between Nils and tsunami!!! Lets stop any referencing to Tsunami! I think this thread has suffered from language barriers and there has been some confusion, which I feel partly responsible for.... sorry :-[

@Nils: keep up the good work.
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 04, 2015, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: edwardo on July 04, 2015, 07:53:43 AM
QuoteWhat is the focus with tsunamigate and nils renders???? Boh

NOTHING!!! Metal Master simply said SINCE tsunamigate he scrutinises automotive images a little more. I then stupidly posted (as a joke) and image that was clearly NOT a keyshot rendering (as Tsunami used to do, before describing in great untrue detail how he produced the image). There is absolutely NO link to Nils, and nobody is suggesting that he has been doing a 'Tsunami'. Nils's work is the real deal, and personally I'm really liking his experimenting with actual geometry backgrounds / environments.

So, just to be clear, there is no, and has never been any connection between Nils and tsunami!!! Lets stop any referencing to Tsunami! I think this thread has suffered from language barriers and there has been some confusion, which I feel partly responsible for.... sorry :-[

@Nils: keep up the good work.
Was not refered to you edwardo..There was other people accusing with stupidity language "he was caught"......
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: SergioBL on July 05, 2015, 09:37:19 PM
Like Edwardo said, THERE IS NOT any link between Nils and tsunami, NOBODY IS SAYING Nils is doing the same stuff, Nils is a very cool guy with amazing skills and he doesn't need go that low, I had the opportunity to talk with him, and he takes very seriously his job.

Please Nils, keep up the great work!!!  8)
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on July 05, 2015, 10:28:35 PM
Thanks guys for the wonderful comments, and boosting my self confidence :P I like this community a lot.
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on July 06, 2015, 07:59:44 AM
Quite frankly, If you guys think that I composited in the wheels shomehow, here's my KS project tree

Explain it! :D Gheez people, gheeez, I love wheels, why would I ever do such a stupid edit anyway :D
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Josh3D on July 06, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Ok guys. Let's keep it professional. Slater, watch it.
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on July 06, 2015, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: Josh Mings on July 06, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Ok guys. Let's keep it professional. Slater, watch it.

True story Josh. I agree. Some things just are meant to be discussed privately not "IN YO' FACE".
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Despot on July 06, 2015, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: nilspiirma3d on July 03, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
betwen me and tsunami, i only used car imagry as backplates yet my models were all mine. so there's a fundamental difference there, and as far as i have seen, he did more than just use the backplate, he went full on copy paste basically.

Those days for me are ower because i have been exclusivly been building all of my scenery in 3d and rendering on those, so not a single backplate is illegal or something like that, all of my models are my models (scenes) - used as backplates in the scene.

old times were old times, so please stop reffering me to Tsunamis SHIT, not my deal, not like me, nothing to do with me.

I would just like to say that I personally did not liken you to Tsunami... I simply said that on Automobile renders (or any for that matter) I now scrutinise for heavy post work and the blatant copy and paste 'techniques' he used... I even do this on Tim Feher's work and he's the 'Car God'

Just thought I would make myself clear... perhaps I shouldn't have brought up the 'T' word in your thread and for that you have my apologies...

Cheers

J
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Nils Piirma on July 06, 2015, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: The Metal Master on July 06, 2015, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: nilspiirma3d on July 03, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
betwen me and tsunami, i only used car imagry as backplates yet my models were all mine. so there's a fundamental difference there, and as far as i have seen, he did more than just use the backplate, he went full on copy paste basically.

Those days for me are ower because i have been exclusivly been building all of my scenery in 3d and rendering on those, so not a single backplate is illegal or something like that, all of my models are my models (scenes) - used as backplates in the scene.

old times were old times, so please stop reffering me to Tsunamis SHIT, not my deal, not like me, nothing to do with me.


I would just like to say that I personally did not liken you to Tsunami... I simply said that on Automobile renders (or any for that matter) I now scrutinise for heavy post work and the blatant copy and paste 'techniques' he used... I even do this on Tim Feher's work and he's the 'Car God'

Just thought I would make myself clear... perhaps I shouldn't have brought up the 'T' word in your thread and for that you have my apologies...

Cheers

J

Apology ACCEPTED. :P Cheers!
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 06, 2015, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: Josh Mings on July 06, 2015, 09:38:57 AM
Ok guys. Let's keep it professional. Slater, watch it.
Josh what must i watch??????
Someone other must ..
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: Despot on July 06, 2015, 11:12:47 AM
QuoteApology ACCEPTED. :P Cheers!

You're very welcome...
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 09, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
Who is the moderator that DELETED my post on here???
I would be  glad to know who he is? and whi? who may i thanks???????
Title: Re: AMG S63 rendering project
Post by: slater on July 10, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: slater on July 09, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
Who is the moderator that DELETED my post on here???
I would be  glad to know who he is? and whi? who may i thanks???????
Great..there is no democracy on forum thread...someone delete post...and all is ok..
good..