Element-oriented rendering. Include in the Keyshot?
Light and shadow, flashes, reflection and refraction
separately in a separate files??
You want everything on separate layers?
exactly
or separately to the separate files
Thomas Teger
What of it?
This is is on the list.
wish list for new update?
John, are can manually create these passes for now. Are you already doing this?
No Jef
teach me to create these passes please
KeyShot 2 is actually pretty nice for this since you can drag and drop a material onto the entire model at once by dragging from the library onto the top level of the model in the scene tree.
So, using that, you can apply certain materials to the entire model to get your passes.
It'd be a good idea to lock the camera during this process to make sure everything lines up.
I would start be rendering out my full color image, or hero pass, and then save the file so I can also go back to the final project result.
Then, start with passes.
Drag and drop the chrome material onto the entire model to get a reflections pass.
Drag and drop a white or gray diffuse material onto the whole model to get an ambient occlusion pass.
I like to get a clown pass by applying bright color flat materials to various parts. These flat materials give you perfect masks in photoshop by selecting with the magic wand.
If you use a white background and apply a flat white to the model you get your shadow on its own by setting that layer to "multiply".
You can use other materials on the model for different effects.
Let me know if there's some specifics you would like.
THX Jef!!
I very want to make animation like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcP2Hp56iQ0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1t3IE7HECw
I will do the post processing of AE
But to control fires requires a separate render passes with reflections and glare
It is a pity that the camera settings hasn't "glare shader"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLM4IkvdOEs
Yes, those are nice. The glare effect is very cool.
Cholton has done some such work with turntables. Take a look at this thread: http://keyshot.com/forum/index.php?topic=1328.0
You may want to inquire there about his process.
Trapcode Shine is the AE plugin that I would look into for this effect.
my diamond with Keyshot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au9UZpX_BlA&feature=related
no flare
John,
Based on your reference videos, you shouldn't need an extra pass to create the "glare/flare/spark" you desire. I do use separate passes for other things though.
I don't use AE, and not sure how you would achieve this in that particular program. The program I use basically grabs the brightest pixels at whatever threshold I desire.
For fun, I did a quick turntable today to demonstrate the different materials with the glare added. It turned out looking like a stop motion style animation but you'll get the idea. Here's one of the frames. The animation is also attached below.
Here's another one. I bumped up the render settings a little on this one, for a more crisp turnout and a few tweaks. No turntable, just a couple of shots. The first one is straight outta KS and the other has a hint of sparkle and glow - just enough without getting carried away with it.
It's good to see users experimenting with ways to add flare to their renders.
I plan to get this flare plug-in for After Effects:
http://www.videocopilot.net/products/opticalflares/
Even though After Effects is for motion graphics and visual effects, a lot of people use it for post work on still renders as well.
Ed
Here's a plugin for Photoshop and After Effects which does much the same thing.
http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/knoll-light-factory-ps/
Both of those plugins look fantastic!
Please post any KeyShot post work creations you have made.
Very cool stuff.
Flare effects and such would be a natural progression of the work we've done with the "bloom" effect in 2.1, so hopefully we can get that in there soon :)
Quote from: JeffM on January 23, 2011, 11:56:59 AM
Very cool stuff.
Flare effects and such would be a natural progression of the work we've done with the "bloom" effect in 2.1, so hopefully we can get that in there soon :)
I'll hope that you will be able to create and add this unusual effect to the Keyshot :)
Quote from: cholton on January 22, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
Here's another one. I bumped up the render settings a little on this one, for a more crisp turnout and a few tweaks. No turntable, just a couple of shots. The first one is straight outta KS and the other has a hint of sparkle and glow - just enough without getting carried away with it.
Quote from: cholton on January 09, 2011, 07:57:33 AM
I created 2 versions slightly different from one another using Jeff's diamond. The "no_flare" is straight from KS with only the logo. The other I added a teaspoon of flare.
Flashes on you scene whith teapot and diamond scene look pretty cool!!
But still I recommend to make them more significant
Can you write in detail how you set up the flares?
Quote from: JeffM on January 23, 2011, 11:56:59 AM
Very cool stuff.
Flare effects and such would be a natural progression of the work we've done with the "bloom" effect in 2.1, so hopefully we can get that in there soon :)
Awesome! Soon as in 2.2? ::)
Quote from: Johnjoti on January 23, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Flashes on you scene whith teapot and diamond scene look pretty cool!!
But still I recommend to make them more significant
Can you write in detail how you set up the flares?
Thanks, John!
I'm still figuring out a way to add the bright flashes like in some of the real diamond videos. I think I'm close... Yes, I will try and get something together this week or so, on how to create the flares.
Not 2.2 soon ;)
2.2 is quite a nice version though. We're at Solidworks World showing it now and the feedback is very positive :)