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Gallery => Amazing Shots => Topic started by: Josh3D on March 14, 2013, 08:48:33 AM

Title: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Josh3D on March 14, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
Happy Pi day everyone! Henrik has created a fractal material type with various parameters you can adjust and customize to render. (Just a little look at some of the power under the KeyShot hood.) The .bip file download is available below. Grab it and let's see your fractal creations! Here is a quick screen grab of one worked up with a translucent material. More variation can be seen on the KeyShot blog (http://www.keyshot.com/keyshot-pi-day-fractal-download/2013/).

Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 14, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
Absolutely beautiful, it looks like a 4D Quaternion Julia Set fractal...

Truly can't wait to play with this tomorrow...

Cheers

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 14, 2013, 04:16:04 PM
I swear I hadn't read the blog... I'm a huge fan of Kai Kraus, used to build these using a plug-in he created called Frax4D
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 14, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
biomechanic ... you are officially a NERD! And yes, it is a 4D Quaternion Julia Set fractal. KeyShot only visualizes 3 of the dimensions.

You can edit the fractal material to your liking, and then apply the material of your liking to it, once you got the fractal you like.
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: evilmaul on March 14, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
super cool! gotta play with that :)
well done Henrik!
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:02:46 AM
 ;D Yeah, I'm king of the nerds, think Leonard from the Big Bang Theory...

Thomas, Is it possible to apply any material type once the fractal has been created ?

Cheers

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: feher on March 15, 2013, 05:17:40 AM
Thanks for this !
Here you go.
Happy Fractal day  ;D
Tim
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: DriesV on March 15, 2013, 06:34:47 AM
Polyamide fractal.

Dries
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Speedster on March 15, 2013, 06:59:04 AM
Gads, Dries!  That last shot looks like a purge from one of my plastic injection molding machines, back when I was in the manufacturing business.  Thank God that's behind me now!  Sold it all 10 years ago and never looked back!  But man, I'll never forget the smell of a "nice hot purge"!
Bill G
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: DriesV on March 15, 2013, 08:56:02 AM
Bill, natural PA purges can have a useful second life as a lighting fixture. ;D

Dries
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: evilmaul on March 15, 2013, 09:13:21 AM
speaking of fractals.... look this pretty neat video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4wy_oc6Y3A
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Josh3D on March 15, 2013, 09:37:59 AM
watching that to the sound of the new Atoms for Peace album is a trip.
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
Well - I cannot get it to work... ???

When I open fractal314.bip I just get a blank render window....

Pointers anyone please 
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
Are you using KeyShot 4?
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
Super cool stuff!
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
Hi Thomas - yes I am

When I open the file, what should I see ?

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:17:05 PM
This:

Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Well I just see the grey environment, nothing else

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:19:03 PM
Im using 4.0.74 Pro

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:19:33 PM
Are you using 4.0.74, and doing a simple File > Open?
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:21:32 PM
Well that answers that. Is it in the scene tree?
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:26:04 PM
Yeah, it's in the scene tree and when I go to the material I can adjust parameter settings but nothings visible...

When I rotate around the scene, nothing is there

I just give up...

J

Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
Can I just say I'm using a legitimate copy of KS... I can send you my serial number if it is required

Im running KS on a Windows 7 64bit platform

Gotta admit this is the first time I've ever seen a blank render viewport on file open...  :'(

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 12:32:34 PM
Check the scale of the object, and the camera distance.
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
Tried all of that, nothing works, still just an empty scene, visually anyway...

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 01:05:33 PM
Can somebody open the file and re-save it, then upload it for me to download please.

Just clutching at straws here...

Thanks

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: DriesV on March 15, 2013, 01:24:50 PM
Here you have it.
Strange...opens just fine on my machine using the exact same KS4 version...
I changed the settings a bit. maybe that helps.

It does seem like the scale changes when reopening. The scale of the fractal model should be at '2'.


Dries
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
Hi Dries, thanks, but it didn't work

I just see a blank render window, rotating, changing scale and/or camera distance does nothing at all

Not a fractal in sight...

I'm beginning to think it is a KeyShot conspiracy...  ;)

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
Re-installed KeyShot...

Still nothing

Luxion please help...

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: TpwUK on March 15, 2013, 02:20:52 PM
r u on 32bit or 64 biomechanic ?

Martin
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 02:24:25 PM
Hi Martin

Im running 64bit

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: TpwUK on March 15, 2013, 02:41:03 PM
Darn - I've looked at the bip file too, cant see any of the settings that might be goofing it, it forces me to close a session so it can load in, other than locking the aspect ratio it don't seem to do anything untoward ... I am at a loss here

sorry

Martin
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 15, 2013, 03:24:08 PM
Can somebody from Luxion not help please ?

Thanks

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: guest84672 on March 15, 2013, 04:08:08 PM
@TpwUK - you will need to double click on the object. Then you can edit the shape of the fractal.

@biomechanic: Obviously the object is in the scene, otherwise it would be in the tree. Right click on the object inside the tree, and select "Look at". Then move the camera closer. I hope this solves it for you. Can't think of anything else at the moment.

Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: feher on March 15, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
Ok in the scene tree do you have the object? If so right click on it and click edit material. The fractal has a bunch of slider move them around it should work.
Other than that I don't know what to do.
good luck.
Tim
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 16, 2013, 12:00:05 PM
Hey

Thanks everybody for the suggestions... got it working now, but only in KeyShot 4 32bit...

I've done 2 clean re-installs of KeyShot 64bit and it simply will not work... every other scene file I have opens and displays apart from this one.

I have no idea what's going on, I imagine Henrik might have an idea, but who knows...

Can someone tell me if the 32bit version is slower at rendering than 64bit - or is it just that the 64bit version can handle larger data sets and that's it...

J
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: KeyShot on March 16, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
It is quite strange that the fractal does not work on your computer. What kind of CPU do you have? We have seen some issues with AMD processors. The 32 bit version should be almost as fast. Besides the ability to use more memory 64 bit software has a slightly more efficient code structure, so it will generally give you a small performance boost. For the fractals 32 bit should be fine though and you can run KeyShot 32 and 64 bit side by side.

-- Henrik
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: ayamisawa on March 17, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
I added 2 objects, and applied point light deffuse material to them.
Title: Re: Let's See Your Amazing Fractal Shots!
Post by: Despot on March 18, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
Henrik : Well, I've got an AMD processor, so it's starting to make sense... Might the issue be with the Floating Point Unit since I assume your fractal requires a lot of number crunching ?

Do you think you might be able to get it to work  on AMD 64bit processors - or are you not going to develop it any further ?

Anyway, managed to squeeze some renders out of KS4 32bit....