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Other => Wish List => Topic started by: mafrieger on February 08, 2014, 07:10:08 AM

Title: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on February 08, 2014, 07:10:08 AM
Keyshot is an really great an easy to use programm with lots of advanced possibilities
Spaceclaim is the same for CAD plus having advanced import possibilities.
- so the perfect combination would be spaceclaim + keyshot.
Having this you could import nearly every filetype from any cad program via spacelaim's advanced import possibilities,
optimize/modify the file and than pass it to keyshot.
At this time it's not that great because you have to do often lots of work twice within keyshot - because their is no livelinking and changing a small part of the geometry in spaceclaim you have to do all the work again in keyshot... :'(

=> livelinking keyshot to spaceclaim and you could get the most out of keyshot  :)

=> what do you think?
@ keyshot team - can we have any hope that this would happen??
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on February 08, 2014, 07:28:35 AM
yes I know that there is already some integration as you can see here:
http://youtu.be/SeCxKU09n74
- but its no real linking

Modifying a small part of the geometry in spaceclaim after having rendered with keyshot, you have to setup everything again...
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: thomasteger on February 10, 2014, 05:46:55 AM
All the plugin work is done by SpaceClaim. LiveLinking will be available with SP1 of the current version.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on February 13, 2014, 11:03:53 AM
wow that's great to hear!
And what is the best:
SP1 seems to be coming soon: on March 3.
see:
https://twitter.com/spaceclaim/status/434039046529363968

I'm excited  ::)
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on March 11, 2014, 05:34:31 AM
just updated to SC 2014 SP1.
Keyshot is also latest version.
Not working out of the box. Same behaviour than before :-(

Any idea where and how to configure it?
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: thomasteger on March 11, 2014, 05:45:03 AM
According to SpaceClaim it will now be in SP2. For all questions regarding the plugin please contact SpaceClaim support directly.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on March 11, 2014, 06:00:25 AM
many thanks for this information!
result => :(

hopefully SP2 will arrive before autumn...
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: thomasteger on March 11, 2014, 06:34:03 AM
They said that it will arrive in May.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on June 01, 2014, 11:35:25 AM
hmm...May is over now - no update anywhere...  :(
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: KeyShot on June 01, 2014, 02:40:20 PM
It is in the SP2 service pack for SpaceClaim coming later this month as far as I know.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on June 01, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
Thanks for your answer!
So just a small delay...
Do you know anything about general KS 5.0 compatibility?
and will it be possible to directly live-link the model in NURBS quality?

If so this is a step from 0 -1000miles/h in the workflow+quality  ;D
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: KeyShot on June 01, 2014, 09:44:05 PM
It should work with KeyShot 5. I don't think it will support NURBS initially.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on June 24, 2014, 09:00:13 AM
You were right: Spaceclaim 2014 SP2 is available today  :)

A little bit confusing:
there seem to be a FREE-Version of Keyshot included in this Service Pack of Spaceclaim  :o
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cmKFk4Hc

BUT
- there is no word spread about livelinking - do you know anything?
- what is about existing customers of Spaceclaim and Keyshot? do they have a benefit too ?
- what are the differences between Full Keyshot and this free included version?
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on June 26, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
so we tested it today and updated our keyshot-pro to v5 and spaceclaim to 2014 SP2

the good news:
you can use Spaceclaim still together with your full version of keyshot  :)

the sad news:
Livelinking seems not be possible/available as far I could see:
every time you change something in spaceclaim you have to resend/reopen it in keyshot and it starts as a new part and the changes you have made in keyshot have to be redone  :(

I also looked into the settings of both programs and could not anything to resolve this.

the rendering nurbs option is also greyed out in the menu....

hmm hopefully I didn't get it right and there is a special trick to activate livelinking or another way of better integration??

UPDATE:
just found your Blog Post about Keyshot & Spaceclaim
https://www.keyshot.com/spaceclaim/

=> GREAT NEWS: Livelinking should work!!!
"LiveLinking
As soon KeyShot is started from SpaceClaim through the Render option, the two applications are linked. You may assign materials or set up lighting and camera angles inside KeyShot. In SpaceClaim, you may continue to refine your model. When you are satisfied with the changes, select Update from the SpaceClaim menu."

but what to do to make it work?
Do one need a special version of Keyshot?
Or is the mentioned "update button" hidden somewhere?

every time clicking the Keyshot button in Spaceclaim a new instance of Keyshot is opened...
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on July 09, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
just installed the latest Keyshot 5 update version 5.0.98 from 07/07/2014.
Still the same...

any ideas or a small description / example to show how livelinking beteween keyshot and spaceclaim should work?

Many thanks!
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: KeyShot on July 09, 2014, 12:17:41 PM
SpaceClaim have everything they need to implement Live Linking with KeyShot. It is not related to anything missing in KeyShot. For some unknown reason SpaceClaim decided not to implement it yet and instead call what they have Live Rendering (which is not the same). Hopefully, they will implement it in a later release or service pack.
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: mafrieger on July 09, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
Many thanks for your answer!!

I was asking again in this forum, because you are writing about Spaceclaim-Keyshot Livelinking on your website:
Quote...you can now send updates to your SpaceClaim model to KeyShot through Luxion's LiveLinking technology. This updates the model in KeyShot for any parts that have changed on the model in SpaceClaim,...
https://www.keyshot.com/2014/keyshot-spaceclaim-brings-rendering-spaceclaim-engineer/
maybe this should be "fine tuned" to prevent further confusions....
Title: Re: livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot
Post by: KeyShot on July 09, 2014, 03:36:33 PM
You are right. That is a mistake. We were under the impression that SpaceClaim would implement Live Linking for the release.