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Title: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 02, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
Hi All,

I've been having big problems with 2 of my machines running keyshot 4.1 and later.

Keyshot 4 did not open large files in keyshot 4 (black screen) searched the forums and did all the suggested option - didnt resolve the problems.
Keyshot 5 (trial) - imports parts ok but i cannot assign any materails.

I have tried the software on various other Pentium machines and it works perfectly, The two machines I have problems with are both running AMD Phenom cpu's

This is a huge problem now as i have already purched new RAM and graphics cards in an attempt to sort the issue (not to mention doing numerous reinstalls on windows etc)

I really want to purchase keyshot 5 - but if this is going to mean new motherboards and CPU's i just cant cover the cost!

Ive seem to have seen loads of AMD users on the forums that seem to be having the same problems, is this the case?

so.....

Is there a problem with keyshot and AMD cpu's?

Has anyone installed and keyshot 5 onto an AMD (PhenomII X6 1090T if possible) machine and had it working?

Does luxion do bug test on AMD machines?


Could really do with a resolve the is ASAP if anybody can help with information i would really appreciate it.

Cheers

Tom


Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: Bruno F on June 02, 2014, 08:53:39 AM
Hello Tom,

We run KeyShot 4 and KeyShot 5 on AMD machines without issues.  It sounds to me like your installation and computer configurations may be conflicting.  I would do a complete uninstall (make sure to delete all KeyShot folders from your computer or move them to your desktop).  Then I would re-install using the full installer found here:  https://www.keyshot.com/try

Make sure that when you re-install:

a) You select "Install just for me", and
b) That you have read AND write permissions into the Documents/KeyShot 5 resources folder AND its subfolders

If the problem continues please contact us at support@luxion.com

-Bruno F
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 03, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
Hi Bruno,

Thanks for the reply.

I have just uninstalled all previous versions of keyshot and deleted all folder. Ran a registery clean just to make sure everything is gone.

I have reinstalled keyshot from the link you suggested and made sure i have all the permissions needed.

I still have the exact same problems.

Any other ideas?

Kind regards

Tom
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: WILLIAM-BOYCE on June 05, 2014, 11:23:25 AM
I am having same issue when I can get a simple part into 5 I can not drag and drop materials to the model. Running an AMD Phenom II
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: francocosta02 on June 06, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
same issue over here, can import models, but not assign materials, move, rotate, hide......

when i assign materials, nothing happens.... but when i try to move the part it crashes and closes....
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 07, 2014, 08:57:00 AM
Hi William, i had a meeting with the keyshot support last night and they agree there might be a bug. There looking into it as we speak. I'll keep this post updated as i find out more. Its really odd that it only happens to amd users....so far all the people are using the 6core phenom II.

Franco what cpu are you using?

I was playing last night, it seems you cant do anything a from the 'right click' menu that affects the model directly.

I also foimd that if you drag materials into the parts in the scene tree - hit save - close - reopen the material will appear! A pretty silly work around i know but may help if you stuck.

Also crashes pretty often so i think theres a bigget bug in there somewhere.

Anyone else getting the same?

Cheers

Tom
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: francocosta02 on June 07, 2014, 09:09:04 AM
AMD Phenom II x4
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 08, 2014, 02:05:22 AM
I see a pattern emerging!
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: WILLIAM-BOYCE on June 09, 2014, 06:27:21 AM
I posted this some time back. I have been having this issue as soon as I upgraded to 4.2 I think
https://www.keyshot.com/forum/index.php/topic,7121.msg34349.html#msg34349       

tom123456789
Thanks for the info good to know they are working on it.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: francocosta02 on June 10, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
So?  Any new on this? Tried everything nothing worked
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: KeyShot on June 10, 2014, 07:17:31 PM
We have fixed this issue with AMD chips. Contact beta@luxion.com if you want to try the latest build.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: Despot on June 10, 2014, 11:15:44 PM
Hey guys,

This has been happening to me since I installed KS5 Beta... Could not drag and drop or copy and paste materials, couldn't hide or delete anything from the scene tree... thought  this behaviour was unique to my system, now I know it's not.

I'm pleased it is resolved now, although it's moot for me as I'm using an Intel rig now.

J

Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 12, 2014, 01:39:26 AM
Installes the update..

Still has the same problems.

???????
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: Despot on June 12, 2014, 06:51:13 AM
It's even worse than before for me... real time render window is just a black void when importing geometry or opening .BIPS

Clicking in the render window produces an 'AppCrashB1' error

J
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: WILLIAM-BOYCE on June 12, 2014, 09:31:31 AM
Same here even worse.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: francocosta02 on June 12, 2014, 02:21:09 PM
Can't import models now, models that I was able to import in ks4
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: KeyShot on June 13, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
We were able to get hold of an old AMD laptop and debug the issue (it turned out the linker made some optimizations that caused problems). It will be fixed in a build later today. Contact beta@luxion.com to get early access.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: francocosta02 on June 13, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
ok now it is working, everything, but after 5-10 minutes the program gets really really heavy, mouse lagging etc etc....

i dont think it's my pc, keyshot 4worked just fine.

AMD Phenom II x4 3.2ghz
8gb ram
1gb ddr5 amd r7-250 gpu
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: KeyShot on June 13, 2014, 05:38:55 PM
Great to hear it is working now. Can you contact support@luxion.com to show the issue with KeyShot getting heavy? That should not be happening unless you are using more memory than the 8gb in your machine.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: WILLIAM-BOYCE on June 16, 2014, 05:04:59 AM
Working great for me now! I am not seeing any lag issues. Great job guys getting on this A1 support!
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: warrent on June 16, 2014, 08:23:58 AM
I am trying to support a user now that is having the same problem.  They cannot drag and drop materials onto their objects.  Should I join the beta or will this update be live any time soon?
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: warrent on June 20, 2014, 04:58:13 AM
Is there any ETA when the Beta will include floating installers?  I have a user that is running on the 14 day trial because it is the only option currently. 
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: KeyShot on June 20, 2014, 05:40:47 AM
We expect to have it ready next week.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: tom123456789 on June 21, 2014, 01:35:03 AM
Just installed 5.0.89

Works like a dream!

Thanks to the guys at Keyshot for working on this. Your customer support has been great.

Kind regards

Tom
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: warrent on June 26, 2014, 04:47:51 AM
I've been checking on the beta page daily.  I don't see the floating installers up yet.  Can I still expect them this week or have they been delayed?  I'm running the problem that two users will run out of time on the trail versions they are running early next week.
Title: Re: KEYSHOT 5 PROBLEMS WITH 'AMD' CHIPS? cant assign materials
Post by: warrent on June 30, 2014, 07:25:39 AM
Can I get an official answer on the Floating Keyshot Beta?
I've got two users running the trial Beta which will end tomorrow.  The ETA of last week was clearly off.