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Title: Stochastic flakes
Post by: Metin Seven on October 09, 2016, 02:28:04 AM
Hi,

I recently read about a novel material approach in the V-Ray renderer called stochastic flakes (https://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/v-rays-practical-stochastic-rendering-of-spec-y-things/). The technique simulates small shiny flakes that are scattered across a surface. It works great for car paints, snow and similar glossy materials.

Looking at the impressive results the stochastic flakes go beyond some trickery with a specular texture. At the bottom of the V-Ray manual page about it (https://docs.chaosgroup.com/display/VRAY3MAX/Stochastic+Flakes+Material+%7C++VRayStochasticFlakesMtl) there's a link to the paper they used as a reference.

Would be great to see this in Keyshot as well, for even more sparkling product shots than before.
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: INNEO_MWo on October 09, 2016, 04:23:08 AM
Hello Metin.

Did you ever played with the metallic paint material? https://luxion.atlassian.net/wiki/display/K6M/Metallic+Paint (https://luxion.atlassian.net/wiki/display/K6M/Metallic+Paint)
Just look @ my attached .bip-file. I used this material and added some procedural textures in the different color channels.

(For car paints check the Axalta materials. You'll find more in the KeyShot cloud or https://www.keyshot.com/resources/downloads/materials/ (https://www.keyshot.com/resources/downloads/materials/))

And my question is: What do "stochastic flakes" in V-Ray more and what should be the result look like?

hope that helps
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: Metin Seven on October 09, 2016, 06:08:48 AM
Hi MWo,

Many thanks for your feedback and examples, much appreciated.

Your material looks great. I don't know technical details about V-Ray's stochastic flakes material, but it's a new BRDF type that is friendly on resources such as memory consumption and computing time.

You can read more about it in this article. (https://www.fxguide.com/quicktakes/v-rays-practical-stochastic-rendering-of-spec-y-things/)

Looking at the results there is some complex light scattering going on that exceeds a textured car paint material. Usually, textured car paint materials still have a clearly layered build-up with a sheen across the top. The stochastic flakes material adds an extra finish, with the reflective flakes being an active part of the surface calculation, creating advanced multi-angular blurry reflections and sparkling in the surface.

Best regards,

Metin
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: INNEO_MWo on October 09, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
That is very interesting. I've tweaked the material from my example and added a light source for glowing and caustics. If the animation is ready in a while, I'll upload the file as well.

Just check this material.

hope that helps a bit.
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: Metin Seven on October 10, 2016, 12:08:06 AM
Wow, that looks great, MWo, thanks a lot for sharing!
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: INNEO_MWo on October 10, 2016, 12:32:53 AM
Quote from: Metin Seven on October 10, 2016, 12:08:06 AM
Wow, that looks great, MWo, thanks a lot for sharing!

Thank you!

I've attached a zip file with a short animation (1 second) and the frame files.
Title: Re: Stochastic flakes
Post by: Metin Seven on October 10, 2016, 02:04:11 AM
Cool, thanks again!