Hi everyone! Im pretty new to this forum, but actually I've been using Keyshot for quite some time now (And loving it!!) The reason why I havent posted untill now is that I've been working on a project for several years now. I love mechanical stuff, and is also quite a history freak, so some 2-3 years ago I decided to model a Tiger II tank. Now, tank models are overdone, and especially the Tiger one's, but I wanted to do something different, I wanted to model one with full interior, with every bolt and small piece. Even though its years ago im startet, im not nearly fnished yet, still a long way to go, but I feel that I finally have something to show you guys.
I have two models; A low poly version, made in Sketchup, which I basically used to quickly, but accurately, draw details as I studied how the inner working of the tank was. This model is finished, and will be shown first.
The second model, is a high poly version, made in 3ds Max using subdivision, it will be the "Final Product" but its still in the early phases, but I will show you what I've got.
The final goal is to have a complete model, as accurate as possible, that can be disassembled and investigated, while having unlimited details (SubD)
Now before we proceed, I just want to say that I am not modelling professional, and fairly new to subdivision and the topology that it requires so please go easy on me. But else Ill take all the feedback I can get.
Okay, here we go; First the low poly version:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tank2-1.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tank2-1.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tank1-1.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tank1-1.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret8.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret8.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret7.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret7.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret6.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret6.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret5.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret5.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret4.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret4.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret3.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret3.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret2.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret2.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Turret1.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Turret1.jpg.html)
I even made a small concept animation, showing how the pieces are layered and everything can be disassmbled:
Allright, now for the high poly version, this is the part that I will update occasionally as I progress:
First off we have the lower turret, its still in development. Here's some renderings I did a while back, trying to match the period with the whole black/white stuff.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/BlackWhite2_zps5550c9dd.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/BlackWhite2_zps5550c9dd.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/BlackWhite1_zpsebdd03fa.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/BlackWhite1_zpsebdd03fa.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/BlackWhite3_zpsef3e1110.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/BlackWhite3_zpsef3e1110.jpg.html)
Here the turret is more developed, I quite frankly dont like the texture I picked there, it will be redone next time:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Test1_zps28cbb841.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Test1_zps28cbb841.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Test2_zps4a26c143.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Test2_zps4a26c143.jpg.html)
I actually like this material quite a lot, its a shame that it looks too modern though:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Test3_zpsfea4abe1.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Test3_zpsfea4abe1.jpg.html)
Here is an oil tank that will be fitted on the engine:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled14_zps9a3274f0.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled14_zps9a3274f0.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled13_zps613fc128.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled13_zps613fc128.jpg.html)
And gunners sight, this will be situated in the turret, to the left of the 88mm. THis is actually only half of it, but I havent rendered the final one yet:
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled22_zps9572e9e0.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled22_zps9572e9e0.jpg.html)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled21_zps753938c6.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled21_zps753938c6.jpg.html)
And ofcourse, you cant show a tank without showing some tank tracks, so here's what you've all been waiting for!
Tracks!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tracks1_zps909871aa.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tracks1_zps909871aa.jpg.html)
More Tracks!!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tracks2_zpsd0b6e648.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tracks2_zpsd0b6e648.jpg.html)
Even more tracks! And wheels!!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tracks3_zps5fdf19eb.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tracks3_zps5fdf19eb.jpg.html)
And a top view of tracks and wheels!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled81_zps38cda62e.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled81_zps38cda62e.jpg.html)
Oh! And a closeup of tracks!
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/Tracks4_zpsffa7f4bc.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/Tracks4_zpsffa7f4bc.jpg.html)
Allright, enough tracks for today, I hope you enjoyed it and have a splendid day! :)
Wow, what an amazing project!! Even your low poly models have a lot of detail, and the high poly model is fantastic, great WIP renders!
I can't wait to see more, this is a huge undertaking. Thank you for sharing!! :D :D :D
Oh.so.cool! Thanks for sharing!
And thanks to everybody who is finally finding the way to our forum. This is truly awesome!
Please continue to spread the world and the love, and keep the renderings coming!
Thank you!
Wow that is amazing detail. I really look forward to seeing this progress further.
That low poly work is better than most of the subd stuff i get to look at, including my own. You are doing great work there for a hobbyist modeller - keep it coming, but don't rush
Martin
Really nice work !
im not really sure what to say, genuinely speechless! This is a huge undertaking, my hats off to you! It seems sad that in the end all you work and impeccable detailing will just be images. What I mean is... no single image can ever describe just how much work has gone into this! There is enough here to produce a big ol' coffee table book, with glossy close ups of just about every single component. Or even better... a series of animations all edited together into a beautiful 1080p movie - and youv got enough content here to make that movie feature length!
Im not really into gratuitous animations just for the sake of them, just because keyshot has made it attainable to the masses (don't get me wrong, i love that i now have this luxury, i just try not to use it unnecessarily, besides my computer can't cope).... but this model seriously warrants some showcasing with animation.
Stunning work. You must have an abundance of patients
Ed
QuoteNow before we proceed, I just want to say that I am not modelling professional, and fairly new to subdivision and the topology that it requires so please go easy on me. But else Ill take all the feedback I can get.
well... the rest of us are in trouble then :-\
Ok, I'm amazed that you did what you call your low-poly model in sketchup? looks more like SolidWorks or Creo. What kind of documentation are you working from to get so much detail?
Great work!
Now you need to buy a MakerBot (or similar), and print yourself a Tiger Tank!!
Jawdropping sir! I have to second what everyone else here has said already and welcome you to the forums. Thanks for sharing this project. I'm so looking forward to seeing how it progresses!!
Josh
Great work, indeed. Thanks for sharing.
Tanktastic!!!
Amazing work! :)
Awesome work.
Could you tell me what format do you use to export from mac to keyshot, and also if you use turbosmooth/meshsmooth? I have problems exporting
Excellent ! 8)
I look forward to seeing more.
Great modeling ! This is looking good. Can't wait to see more.
Tim
Wow, thank you all, I had never imagined such feedback, it is truly humbling and highly motivating. I really do look forward to show you some more, but since im doing my bachelor right now, all my time is dedicated there. I will atleast, answer a few questions in the meantime, its the least I can do.
Quote from: edwardo on March 12, 2014, 05:45:27 AM
im not really sure what to say, genuinely speechless! This is a huge undertaking, my hats off to you! It seems sad that in the end all you work and impeccable detailing will just be images. What I mean is... no single image can ever describe just how much work has gone into this! There is enough here to produce a big ol' coffee table book, with glossy close ups of just about every single component. Or even better... a series of animations all edited together into a beautiful 1080p movie - and youv got enough content here to make that movie feature length!
Thank you, I never thought of it that way, I mostly do this simply because I love the whole modelling/rendering stuff, and never considered what I would do the day the model is actually finished. But I think some iPad/Tablet app would be awesome, where people could tap on a component and see close up renderings and some description/specs. I know I'd love such an app to learn more about mechanical stuff and how they work. But again, this is way in the future.
Quote from: m2tts on March 12, 2014, 05:55:24 AM
Ok, I'm amazed that you did what you call your low-poly model in sketchup? looks more like SolidWorks or Creo. What kind of documentation are you working from to get so much detail?
Thanks, its entirely made in Sketchup, I know that a lot of "Pros" bash it, but I think its a very versatile program as you dig into it and get a few plugins, as long as you dont want to do SubD.
About the documentation stuff, its very difficult. For such a popular tank theres hardly any blueprints or section drawings of the interior, I've tried calling the 3rd Reich for some prints, but they dont pick up their phones. SO what you have to do is basically scout the internet for scatteret information, sometimes you might be lucky to find a technical drawing, but for something this complex, you're ending up mostly looking and pictures, doing guesswork of dimensions, and when there's no material at all, you have to just use some artistic freedom and hope its atleast somewhat accurate.
Quote from: Robb63 on March 12, 2014, 07:04:36 AM
Now you need to buy a MakerBot (or similar), and print yourself a Tiger Tank!!
Heck yeah! Waiting for a version that can print metal though, then i'll make it in scale 1:1 and go invade Poland!
Quote from: raptorscream on March 12, 2014, 07:57:22 AM
Awesome work.
Could you tell me what format do you use to export from mac to keyshot, and also if you use turbosmooth/meshsmooth? I have problems exporting
Thanks, well, as said im stil la noob, I've tried downloading the Keyshot Max plugin, but I have no idea where to install it (Default is the Keyshot folder, which sounds wrong). So what I do right now is to just export to.obj which is hell. The renders of the tank tracks + wheels was 2.3 Gb alone, with a SubD iteration of 3, so if anyone knows how to install the Keyshot Max plugin, you'd do us both a favor! Thanks you, in advance, my future hero!
You will need to have 3DStudio Max installed in order to be able to install the plugin.
Allright, new update, today I worked on the turret top plate.
Here is the basic plate, the large round hole is the commanders cupola, the 7 holes in the ring around is for periscopes giving i 360 degree view.
The small round hole is for air ventilation, the square is for the loaders hatch. The last hole is for shell ejection.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled92_zps0b0a8dbe.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled92_zps0b0a8dbe.jpg.html)
Periscopes.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled89_zps85924923.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled89_zps85924923.jpg.html)
Loaders hatch, I still miss a few details on this.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled96_zps4357cad5.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled96_zps4357cad5.jpg.html)
Here we see the cover for the commanders hatch, and the small hatch covering the shell ejecting hole.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled98_zpse8c2adea.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled98_zpse8c2adea.jpg.html)
Everything put together, hatches closed.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled100_zps3591c5bd.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled100_zps3591c5bd.jpg.html)
Hatches open.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled102_zps549cc05d.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled102_zps549cc05d.jpg.html)
Finally, here is the turret assembly with front and side plates.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o88/stoferr/untitled105_zps3c84fc7c.jpg) (http://s118.photobucket.com/user/stoferr/media/untitled105_zps3c84fc7c.jpg.html)
Next up is the details on the bottom side of the top plate. Have a nice day!
Very nice modelling again Stoferr ... Keep em coming
Martin
Your tank made me go onto YouTube and look for references, and while there I found lots of videos about people going out in Germany and other countries with metal detectors and finding all sorts of stuff from the war. Much of the finds are rusted to bits but the hunters are still able to identify what they are. Some of the finds are in great condition, they found a couple of tank tracks in one place and were able to tell what kind of tank they were from.
The point being, it could be worth the time contacting them through YouTube and seeing if they can help with reference drawings.