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Title: neanderthal face
Post by: hardboilr on April 30, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Here's some renders of a neanderthal sculpt.  :)

(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-FrontEye-tobiasjacobsen.jpg)
(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-side-tobiasjacobsen.jpg)
(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-Front-tobiasjacobsen.jpg)


Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: TpwUK on May 01, 2014, 12:18:41 AM
Amazing result Tobias

Martin
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: DriesV on May 01, 2014, 01:15:57 AM
Wow, man!
A VR of this would be incredible. ;)

Dries
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: Josh3D on May 01, 2014, 08:53:21 AM
Looks like my old basketball coach :)

Nice work.
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: edwardo on May 01, 2014, 10:51:47 AM
I'v been racking my brains and finally it came to me..... its the dude from "prison break". The one that was on death row.

Nice work
Ed
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: JonWelch on May 01, 2014, 03:00:22 PM
This is awesome! I love the hairs! His eyes look way to clean though, I feel like a neanderthal wouldn't have "Healthy" eyes. But fantastic work.
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: evilmaul on May 02, 2014, 06:06:50 AM
hehe that s very good looking and grooomed neanderthal guy :)
skin too uniform..needs some breakup in color/spec..and yes the groom..seems like he used and eletric shaver on his head
nice work though!
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: TpwUK on May 02, 2014, 06:43:46 AM
He got all scrubbed up and shaven for his KS photoshoot Marco :)

Martin
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: hardboilr on May 02, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
Thanks for the all the comments guys!  :)

You're absolutely right about everything, except him being based on Dominic Purcell (Prison Break) - didn't use any reference of real people so to speak (only anatomy books). ;-)

This project has been a great learning experience, especially in regards to the production and technique angle. In this project, I've tried rendering skin in Octane (both standalone and Blender plugin), Blender Cycles and Zbrush. For each engine it was necessary to tweak the textures maps and setup the materials differently. Ended up going back to Keyshot, which yielded the best results in a very short time. Also very predictable results under different lighting conditions, easy to tweak the look in the editor etc.
In my humble and inexperienced opinion, I would say Keyshot has one of the best skin shader technologies out there atm... and I have obviously only scratched the surface on what can be achieved with it.

In my next project I will try to push the textures more. Didn't use a lot of time on the hair, but there's lot of room for improvement in this area also. In regards to eyes, I think it will be necessary to create a more intricate setup, both in terms of creating a more physical accurate eye model and subsequent use more materials.

A question in regards to gloss/roughness and specular:

I am used to working with specular materials in relation to creating game assets, but I would expect the specular texture to be of less importance in a render engine like Keyshot. Here I would much rather take outset in a constant specular value and create a microsurface texture, which is then plugged into a gloss/roughness channel of the material.

What are your opinions of that?
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: hardboilr on May 06, 2014, 12:59:56 AM
Updated with slight refinements to eye color, specular values and normal map direction (had originally inverted the normal map direction by mistake)
(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-FrontEye-tobiasjacobsen1.jpg)
(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-side-tobiasjacobsen1.jpg)
(http://tobiasjacobsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/neanderthal-Front-tobiasjacobsen1.jpg)

Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: FeherJr on May 06, 2014, 05:44:47 PM
I love this.
I am learning modeling in Blender at the moment and am trying to figure out how to export each hair particle on one of my models as a object or mesh so i can render it in Keyshot.
If you know could you tell me how. Would be 100% grateful
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: hardboilr on May 11, 2014, 03:12:51 AM
Quote from: FeherJr on May 06, 2014, 05:44:47 PM
I love this.
I am learning modeling in Blender at the moment and am trying to figure out how to export each hair particle on one of my models as a object or mesh so i can render it in Keyshot.
If you know could you tell me how. Would be 100% grateful

I would like to know how to do this also, as Blender should have some nice hair tools. The hair on the neanderthal is polygon hair from Zbrush.
Title: Re: neanderthal face
Post by: TpwUK on May 11, 2014, 03:38:44 AM
There is an article on how to export hair from Blender here http://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/2745/convert-cycles-hair-particle-system-to-mesh-object
I have not tried it so can't comment on its validity but would be most interested in seeing ary results.

Martin