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Started by DevMatt, April 16, 2018, 07:29:26 AM

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schneich

i find the use of those nazi symbols shows pretty bad taste, in my eyes its inappropriate!!!

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t.

TGS808

Quote from: schneich on April 16, 2018, 10:05:47 AM
i find the use of those nazi symbols shows pretty bad taste, in my eyes its inappropriate!!!

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t.

Perhaps you are not familiar with the Wolfenstein video games. It's perfectly appropriate considering the source of these images. If he was just decorating his models with swastikas for the fun of it I'd agree with you but these are for a game set in an alternate history 1961 following the Nazi victory of the Second World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_II:_The_New_Colossus






DevMatt

hahah indeed it´s not like we put those "logos" on it for fun
And we have different "low gore"/sanitized version for a couple of countries

Speedster

QuotePerhaps you are not familiar with the Wolfenstein video games. It's perfectly appropriate considering the source of these images. If he was just decorating his models with swastikas for the fun of it I'd agree with you but these are for a game set in an alternate history 1961 following the Nazi victory of the Second World War.
I sort of agree, as I mentioned in another post.  And I accept DevMat's reply.  In a way, it's like building and painting a plastic model kit of a WWII Panzer tank, and putting swastika decals on it. Gnarly and nasty, but period and historically correct and in done in context. Still don't like the symbol, however.

It's analogous to using a hangman's noose in an image.  In America it's absolutely socially unacceptable due to the long history of lynching.  Historically correct perhaps, but frankly unacceptable. 

Ditto depicting an image of Allah. 

But I have to say, these are amazing works!

Bill G

TGS808

Quote from: Speedster on April 16, 2018, 03:18:02 PM
I sort of agree, as I mentioned in another post.  And I accept DevMat's reply.  In a way, it's like building and painting a plastic model kit of a WWII Panzer tank, and putting swastika decals on it. Gnarly and nasty, but period and historically correct and in done in context. Still don't like the symbol, however.

It's analogous to using a hangman's noose in an image.  In America it's absolutely socially unacceptable due to the long history of lynching.  Historically correct perhaps, but frankly unacceptable. 

Ditto depicting an image of Allah. 

But I have to say, these are amazing works!

Bill G


Amazing works indeed. Everything DevMatt posts is so good... I don't even have the words. It's all that good.

As far as the swastika symbol... Of course you don't like it (or rather what it stands for). Neither do I.  And of course it's unacceptable in day to day society but DevMatt's work is part of a fictional narrative. A person should be no more upset about the use of the symbol in the Wolfenstein game than they should it's use in "The Man in The High Castle" or "Raiders of the Lost Ark". 

Speedster

QuoteA person should be no more upset about the use of the symbol in the Wolfenstein game than they should it's use in "The Man in The High Castle" or "Raiders of the Lost Ark". 

+1

Which is why Freedom of Speech is enshrined in our Constitution as the 1st Amendment, as in the most important of many. 

I may disagree with the symbol, but I'll fight to defend the use of it.

Bill G

TGS808

Quote from: Speedster on April 16, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
Which is why Freedom of Speech is enshrined in our Constitution as the 1st Amendment, as in the most important of many. 

I may disagree with the symbol, but I'll fight to defend the use of it.

Bill G

Big +1 to that Bill.

CC88

This is incredible. It's very difficult to say more. Really amazing work.

May I ask how much UV'ing in a model like this?


Pouya Hosseinzadeh

Smooth. Lovely presentation mode!