livelink to spaceclaim: to make it possible to bring any filetype to keyshot

[mafrieger]

Keyshot is an really great an easy to use programm with lots of advanced possibilities
Spaceclaim is the same for CAD plus having advanced import possibilities.
- so the perfect combination would be spaceclaim + keyshot.
Having this you could import nearly every filetype from any cad program via spacelaim's advanced import possibilities,
optimize/modify the file and than pass it to keyshot.
At this time it's not that great because you have to do often lots of work twice within keyshot - because their is no livelinking and changing a small part of the geometry in spaceclaim you have to do all the work again in keyshot...

=> livelinking keyshot to spaceclaim and you could get the most out of keyshot 

=> what do you think?
@ keyshot team - can we have any hope that this would happen??

[mafrieger]

yes I know that there is already some integration as you can see here:
http://youtu.be/SeCxKU09n74
- but its no real linking

Modifying a small part of the geometry in spaceclaim after having rendered with keyshot, you have to setup everything again...

[thomasteger]

All the plugin work is done by SpaceClaim. LiveLinking will be available with SP1 of the current version.

[mafrieger]

wow that's great to hear!
And what is the best:
SP1 seems to be coming soon: on March 3.
see:
https://twitter.com/spaceclaim/status/434039046529363968

I'm excited 

[mafrieger]

just updated to SC 2014 SP1.
Keyshot is also latest version.
Not working out of the box. Same behaviour than before :-(

Any idea where and how to configure it?

[thomasteger]

According to SpaceClaim it will now be in SP2. For all questions regarding the plugin please contact SpaceClaim support directly.

[mafrieger]

many thanks for this information!
result =>

hopefully SP2 will arrive before autumn...

[thomasteger]

They said that it will arrive in May.

[mafrieger]

hmm...May is over now - no update anywhere... 

[KeyShot]

It is in the SP2 service pack for SpaceClaim coming later this month as far as I know.

[mafrieger]

Thanks for your answer!
So just a small delay...
Do you know anything about general KS 5.0 compatibility?
and will it be possible to directly live-link the model in NURBS quality?

If so this is a step from 0 -1000miles/h in the workflow+quality 

[KeyShot]

It should work with KeyShot 5. I don't think it will support NURBS initially.

[mafrieger]

You were right: Spaceclaim 2014 SP2 is available today 

A little bit confusing:
there seem to be a FREE-Version of Keyshot included in this Service Pack of Spaceclaim 
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2cmKFk4Hc

BUT
- there is no word spread about livelinking - do you know anything?
- what is about existing customers of Spaceclaim and Keyshot? do they have a benefit too ?
- what are the differences between Full Keyshot and this free included version?

[mafrieger]

so we tested it today and updated our keyshot-pro to v5 and spaceclaim to 2014 SP2

the good news:
you can use Spaceclaim still together with your full version of keyshot 

the sad news:
Livelinking seems not be possible/available as far I could see:
every time you change something in spaceclaim you have to resend/reopen it in keyshot and it starts as a new part and the changes you have made in keyshot have to be redone 

I also looked into the settings of both programs and could not anything to resolve this.

the rendering nurbs option is also greyed out in the menu....

hmm hopefully I didn't get it right and there is a special trick to activate livelinking or another way of better integration??

UPDATE:
just found your Blog Post about Keyshot & Spaceclaim
https://www.keyshot.com/spaceclaim/

=> GREAT NEWS: Livelinking should work!!!
"LiveLinking
As soon KeyShot is started from SpaceClaim through the Render option, the two applications are linked. You may assign materials or set up lighting and camera angles inside KeyShot. In SpaceClaim, you may continue to refine your model. When you are satisfied with the changes, select Update from the SpaceClaim menu."

but what to do to make it work?
Do one need a special version of Keyshot?
Or is the mentioned "update button" hidden somewhere?

every time clicking the Keyshot button in Spaceclaim a new instance of Keyshot is opened...

[mafrieger]

just installed the latest Keyshot 5 update version 5.0.98 from 07/07/2014.
Still the same...

any ideas or a small description / example to show how livelinking beteween keyshot and spaceclaim should work?

Many thanks!